Model 19: 416z vs. GPA 416-8C

**voice of the theater** · June 26th, 2013, 09:08 AM

Since you're asking what will sound better and you're considering buying a new pair of GPA 416-8C, I'd recommend buying a new pair of GPA 416-8B. The alnico 416-8B is what's in both pair of Model 19's that I own and was the original driver in most Model 19's (until Altec switched from alnico to ferrite). Of course keep in mind that your question (which will sound better?) is subjective in nature and there may be a few out there that prefer the ferrite 416-8C over the 416-8B.....

Originally Posted by les winter

Maybe I should have asked this question instead: All things being equal, which will sound better: a nw pair of GPA 416-8C or a vintage mint pair of 416Z?
thanks for all the replies.

**badtoby** · June 28th, 2013, 02:22 AM

Will Z's mount to a 19 cab?

**Old Guy** · June 28th, 2013, 05:12 AM

Originally Posted by badtoby

Will Z's mount to a 19 cab?

Depends- z can have old or new frames. Old frames need rear mount or some manipulation to front mount.

**les winter** · June 28th, 2013, 06:07 AM

I built the enclosures and made the front baffle removable, so it can be modified or replaced as needed. I have decided to build 16-ohm versions of the model 19 x/o and use the 416z woofers. I appreciate all the input.
thanks.

**voice of the theater** · June 28th, 2013, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by les winter

I built the enclosures and made the front baffle removable, so it can be modified or replaced as needed. I have decided to build 16-ohm versions of the model 19 x/o and use the 416z woofers. I appreciate all the input.
thanks.

I owned 416z woofers in my 846a Valencias. They are great sounding woofers--please keep us posted on your progress!

**rontec** · July 1st, 2013, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by les winter

I built the enclosures and made the front baffle removable, so it can be modified or replaced as needed. I have decided to build 16-ohm versions of the model 19 x/o and use the 416z woofers. I appreciate all the input.
thanks.

Good move! I think you can make a decent set of speakers with your components. You might have to be a little creative mounting the 511b's as well. The HF drivers might want to protrude out the back of the cabs a bit. Also you might want the crossover point a little lower than the 811b's on mod. 19's. You'll have fun getting there! Keep us posted on your progress.